taman keeping this society at bay just like in the times of rowan to talk more about this i'm joined by our two producer who said oh. so before we even get into this i just want to play with some of these examples of what i was just talking about let's hear. these words or jerk it's like oh the r. and d. or and there are i am not so sure small word has such a lot of letters is going to run this on disk utility retails for one point not only got thirty coupons will double to sixty so that's going to make you. sick but my. i think my style is just a final thing in changing and i think it should because that's you know what life is about is it's so hard to keep things. very very very very big he's a fashion designer and he loves clay so i'm excited to like collaborate with you're

going to be a strong critic. with the help of world class experts we will do whatever it takes hold we transform. or walk. up to. so without show where their families i don't recognize them anymore and they're like mommy who are you i do remember don't know vomitorium is like in the roman times but we do have competitive eating so are we that much different then rome adriana see i want to say yes to things i mean no one we have rule of law to underwear so yes two very big differences two very very big differences i mean i don't think right now i mean i understand the thought process behind all that i have to a certain extent i do agree but unfortunately no i think we're much better off and i think we are as a people we have our race we have evolved so we are at a higher playing field i guess i don't disagree but you do agree that the do have

a sense of bread and circuses kind of for the. time i mean that then i my job was. about was that it be. so bad but you know this article is going to talking about human evolution geneticist who's making the claim that despite the revolution in technology humans are de valving and we can look at the receiver kind of an example of how you know society to be in the future of everything even with all these technological advancements informations at our fingertips with the world wide web but is that a form of selective learning i mean are we really grasping these concepts or are we just kind of knowing you know we can find anything on the internet so we don't actually remember and absorb this information see i think that's honestly i think this is the most exciting part of being able to live in this generation or in this in this time period which is we have the access you know how crazy it is to be able to have access i mean as as a woman as a minority even thirty sixty years ago that would have not been afforded to me at

all and it's sort of it's really interesting to be able to just go online be able to you know say i want to learn about the roman empire today wait let me just do this and good to go i mean the difference here is how do you choose to what information exact. how do you utilize that information and that access and i mean that's where you come into the difference between stupid and i mean stupid is stupid but dumb not so much and i did go off what you're saying about the arab spring like they've utilized the internet. and progress and i think that it really does have an enormous capacity to do that let's talk about revolution there's this generational theory coined by strauss how about a recurring generational cycle in american history every fourth generation every eighty years we see this cataclysmic shift in consciousness you know american revolution civil war world war two we're almost nearing the end of that if your cycle what do you think is going to happen do you do you agree with this i think that revolutions or whatever it is that we're talking about i think the change the

types of revolutions change so i mean it doesn't necessarily have to be war i mean we look at what was happening right now i mean we're we are sort of living in the time frame already but it doesn't necessarily have to be you know a bloody war to be a revolution i mean look at the technological revolution look at all these different things that have completely shaped the way we live right now a way that we share information the way that we gain access the way i mean it doesn't really necessarily have to be you know violence in order to be a revolution and hopefully we can evolve past that where violence is some sort of absolutely or revolution of consciousness and to wrap it up you know do you think the powers that be sensed this sort of this upheaval in society i mean we have the arab spring occupy wall street you know we see the surveillance state being put into effect are they trying to use the roman strategy to kind of dumbest down to prevent this from happening in your honor i disagree with the i think i think you know that i'm going to say no to that at all i mean it's an interesting concept but

i feel that it's not the powers that be it's not big brother it's actually it's a you know we do it to ourselves essentially i mean it's what sells right and that those shows that we just saw that's what selling into the day if you don't if you don't buy it show it right or we need to stop desiring that kind of mindless entertainment and then hopefully we can all become more evolved beings thank you so much for breaking it down in toronto star. all right guys i know there's a lot of confusion surrounding the conflict between israel and palestine in recent days israel's launched a massive air strike offense against the gaza strip but to really comprehend this conflict it's helpful to understand the events that have led up to today in the most simple of terms it goes like this israel exists right here in this spot on the eastern end of the mediterranean these two points on the map are gaza and the west

bank together known as palestine but it didn't always look like this following world war one there were approximately sixty five thousand jewish immigrants that immigrated to palestine then under british rule that's when britain implemented the balfour declaration which promised a jewish homeland now as palestinians were driven out from the newly designated jewish territory clashes began and they would continue for years to come during the next decade and additional hundred thousand jewish immigrants arrived and yet until the early one nine hundred thirty s. the jewish population in the region remained under seventeen percent but that change following the holocaust when international efforts to establish a jewish homeland in the land of palestine increased by nine hundred forty seven the un adopted a proposal that would divide palestine into two states the arabs were designated forty three percent of the land despite the fact that they made up two thirds of the population and owned over ninety two percent of the land jews were given fifty

six percent of the land despite being only a third of the population that's interesting math isn't it while following this announcement jewish leaders began occupying major palestinian cities expelling three hundred thousand palestinians before the state of israel was even announced in one thousand forty eight the result of which would lead to a military offensive by neighboring countries which overwhelmingly objected to the establishment of israel in the land of palestine but they were no match the military superiority of the israeli. army israeli military effectively cleansed much of the territory and following the one thousand and forty eight war they encompass seventy eight percent of palestine now although a ceasefire was declared peace would remain a far away thought as now seven hundred thousand palestinian refugees fled into neighboring arab states in many ways this was the catalyst for the escalating instability in the region and one nine hundred sixty seven another war led to the

israeli occupation of the remainder of historic palestine the land that we recognize today as the west bank and gaza it became clear that while the un and other arab countries verbal each championed the plight of the palestinians there would be no international effort to actually enforce their right to self-determination and in one thousand nine hundred seven the first intifada took place a rebellion by the people of palestine thousands were imprisoned and over a thousand palestinians were killed in one thousand nine hundred three they also peace talks began which laid the groundwork for the apartheid system that we know too well today and whatever economic and social rights the palestinians had left while they were then dissolved now by two thousand a second intifada took place claiming the lives of five thousand five hundred palestinians as well as more than a thousand israelis they also years were failure in policy by the palestinian

leadership and in two thousand and six home office became the democratically elected leadership of palestine. now hamas is still considered to be a terrorist group by the us government and it's on the state department list of terrorists however when taking this entire historical narrative into context you must consider that any attacks against israel by palestinian groups is the unavoidable outcome of an aggressive military occupation of the people the people of palestine are suffering they're still paying for the decisions of those who rashly acted on their behalf over the course of the last century thousands of homes are bold those in the story by the israeli military every year against international law the palestinian people are being terrorized on a daily basis with the checkpoints methods of dehumanization and all this is happening in an open air prison and which they are confined you know really need to

look back at the apartheid states of northern ireland and south africa to see that what's happening today in palestine is no different now our elected leaders may be turning a blind eye to this injustice but you don't have to. if you like what you see so far go to our youtube channel youtube dot com slash break in the set and subscribe check out our facebook page at facebook dot com slash break in the set or check on our website a fan made us at break instead dot com also you can follow me on twitter abby martin now i like take a break from my preaching but say turn to hear perspective on the israeli palestinian issue that you won't hear on the mainstream media.

culture is that so much of a given to a huge musician apparently trying to hide from the market again gaza you know a military assault would you be israelis hopefully cheap this time four years ago an invasion killed over a thousand palestinians. in the user sigrid laboratory to mccurry was able to build a new age most sophisticated robot which will unfortunately doesn't give a darn about anything tim's mission to teach music creation why it should care about humans in green this is why you should care only on the dog. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for lengthly you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear sees some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom harpur welcome to the big picture.

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over the past several days thirteen palestinians have been killed resulting from a new israeli offensive called operation pillar of defense now israel's official reason for launching the attack on gaza is that it was all retaliation to rockets being launched from the gaza strip but you probably don't know that a lot of what you're seeing on the news was in fact escalated by something that happened one week ago now them are fit an unarmed palestinian civilian was shot and killed in gaza by israeli forces and three days later a thirteen year old gazan boy was shot and killed by an i.d.f. . soldier now since then it's been a series of missiles rockets deaths and sheer chaos in a region of the world that's no stranger to it but what does this latest episode of the israeli palestinian conflict really boil down to and how might the effects of the arab spring play a role in the future stability of the region talk about all of that and more i'm joined by phyllis bennis director of the new internationalism project at the

institute for policy studies phyllis thanks for coming on good to be with you so operation pillar of defense seems to parallel another operation that was launched about four years ago once again coinciding with israeli elections is this a political strategy i think there's no question that at least the timing is very clearly motivated by the israeli political scheme netanyahu is facing new elections in january but if we look back four years ago as you said to operation cast lead in gaza we also see another link which is to the u.s. election cycle this time as was true then the israeli assault on gaza began during a cease fire that had held in this case only for two days but was still holding it began right after the u.s. elections had elected barack obama and before the inauguration for in that case the first term in this case the second term i think that what's at fundamental importance in terms of the timing is the israeli election that is set now for

january and that's you know who knows he has support from the center right the right the far right of the fascist right and he's juggling those various components of his base one of the things he knows is that the center right as well as the labor party and others are very upset with him for disrupting the u.s. israeli relationship because of his very bad relationship with president obama now one of the things that will happen here as has we've already seen from both the white house and the state department is that the u.s. is in a position where they have said right from the beginning israel has absolute right to. quote self-defense a false claim but they are not prepared to say anything about the legalities of israeli actions that however is not going to make good on the long standing tensions between obama and netanyahu that tension remains so this isn't really going to work on that level what it does do is remind israelis that at the end of

the day we are still in a position where the u.s. is going to support any military move that israel does it will prevent the issue from coming up as it has already in the un security council it will discourage it from coming up in a serious way in the arab league and it will put enormous pressure on other countries particularly in the region not to take a serious response to this escalation so that's the timing question the other part of the timing is what you indicated earlier what we're not seeing in the press coverage in the u.s. is that it's always the case that history is determined by when you start the clock if you start the clock on what happened on friday morning for instance you might leave out the palestinians who were shot and killed on thursday if you start the clock on tuesday you leave out what happened on monday and at the end of the day this isn't about any of those days this is about occupation now we hear from some u.s. officials that there is no occupation these soldiers in the settlers pulled out of

gaza right this is sort of the word and that's true in two thousand and five but that isn't what ends up good patient occupation ends when the people of a territory in this case gaza the west bank in east jerusalem together have the right to control their own territory in their own lives gaza is still completely surrounded by an israeli built wall israeli soldiers control who goes into gaza and who comes out which is made mainly no one they control the skies above gaza after bombing gaza's only airport they control the seas surrounding gaza so that gaza fishermen are prevented from going. more than one mile out so the notion that gaza is somehow not occupied flies in the face of international law that admits that occupation is about control it's not about do you have soldiers on the ground in a certain number it's about control and israel still controls gaza if we don't understand the current crisis and this is a crisis and there needs to be an immediate cease fire on both sides certainly the

palestinian rocket fire into israel is illegal as as well because it's aimed at civilians their attack on a military force inside gaza is is legal under international law attacking civilians through rockets is not there needs to be an immediate cease fire but longer term if we don't understand this in the context of occupation we're never going to end this cycle why do you think that we see these lies of omission from the media about the broader context this is a long and sad story in the united states where the media popular culture how we learn in schools and certainly our government the congress the white house the state department shape their politics around and israel first assumption israel is our ally that's what comes first so if israel is fighting if there's any military attack going on we don't talk about the fact that the israeli military is by far the strongest in the region we don't talk about the four point one billion dollars

in military aid the u.s. has spent this year we only talk about israel as being the victims and that has its origins back in the cold war you know in the cold war days israel after sixty seven was seen as a great ally of the united states and it was it played a cat's paw role of representing u.s. interests in many parts of the world certainly in the middle east but not only there also as far afield as and gold and mozambique and nicaragua south africa and el salvador in all these places where israel backed up the u.s. provided arms to u.s. backed dictators etc and in that context. the work of pro israeli lobbies the traditional jewish lobby the newer christian zionist lobby has all of that influence began to to join it intersected with the strategic value that israel was starting to have for the pentagon for the congress so you have this intersection of the political in the strategic then when the cold war is over all of

a sudden the political part remains and it becomes very hard to sort of say well israel is just one more ally that we should change how we relate to it now because it's a different world it is shaping it's all part of shaping the narrative but i wanted to go back to something that you just said in an excellent article that you just wrote in the nation you said in reference to rockets from gaza in israel using force to resist and is illegal military force in the context of a belligerent military occupation is lawful under international law can you elaborate more specifically. in years ago the general assembly took up the question of the right of occupied peoples to resist to resist military occupation and the resolution that passed the general assembly outlines the conditions in which a military resistance is legal when there is a military force occupying your country it's legal and it's and it's lawful to use military force proportional military force against that military occupation you know if americans saw that that great cold war film called red dawn and that's

about soviet backed cuban commandos that invade denver right and the heroes are these these young stewards and these young militants right from the boarding school who pick up the guns to defend their country while they are reflecting international law the people of gaza when they are facing the military force of an of an illegal occupation have the right to use force against it now that doesn't mean it's always strategically sensible it doesn't mean it should be done and it never includes the right to attack civilians so shooting. rockets. across the border into israel where you can't blame them really you can sort of point north that's about as precise as they can be knowing that you're firing into civilian territory that's not legal and that should people should be held accountable for those violations but we have to be very clear this is not equal violations when we're talking about the occupying power the israeli government which has

a whole set of obligations under international law particularly the geneva conventions it has a whole set of obligations to the people of the territory it occupies and let's talk about syria how does syria play a role and what's happening well you know the situation in syria has deteriorated enormously the fighting has has continued to spiral almost out of control the numbers of civilian casualties are up over thirty thousand we don't have any idea of any with any precision what the numbers are and the the possibility of a long term civil war because that's what it is there are really five separate wars being fought in syria now only one of which is the war of the people of syria against a terrible regime there is the the sectarian war there are regional battles there is the war between the u.s. and russia for influence over which base which military base is going to be stronger whether it's the u.s. military base in bahrain or the russian military base in syria all those battles

are being fought out at the expense of the people of syria right now for israel its border with the occupied golan heights and then syria has become very tense in the context of the civil war in syria and we've now seen errant missiles from syria landing in israel israel acknowledge they were not deliberately sent but in return they then fired on syrian. weapon systems so there's a great deal of tension on the syrian border that plays a role of course in how the political. shakedown happens in inside israel so you have for example bibi netanyahu worrying about what is his base going to think about the fact that he has not sent israelis u.s. made f. sixteen fighter bombers to attack damascus hopefully he won't even consider that i don't think he is considering that but the fact that he's not he probably fears

that he will pay a political price for not invading syria or attacking damascus and so part of what's going on in gaza in terms of the timing of this because israeli officials have said on numerous occasions we need to occasionally remind the people of palestine they don't say the people of palestine they say the arabs or the palestinians we have to remind them that we're in charge we're in control but part of the challenge right now on the timing comes back to if bibi netanyahu is worried that he's going to be accused of not being tough enough in responding to syria he can respond to gaza and be as tough as he wants and we're almost out of time but i cannot get to this basically it's an apartheid system that we're seeing it seems like a two state solution isn't possible you have these pockets that are completely surrounded by occupied territory what do you think the outcome is you know right now abbi we're we're in a serious crisis and frankly it's not up to you and me to decide or to say what's going to work and nine we have to be concerned about rights the issue is

a quality human rights and international law i could imagine that in a one state solution not in the current situation with these settlements currently expanding it cetera but at the moment the key thing is to end the occupation and the apartheid system and the violations of international law reverse the refusal to allow the refugees to return then the people there israelis and palestinians together can figure out whether it's going to be one state to state red state blue state that's not our job our job my job here in the united states is to press my government. for what it is doing to enable these kinds of attacks four point one billion dollars a year in military aid absolute protection at the united nations ensuring that no u.s. sorry that no israeli officials are ever held accountable for their violations of international law that's what we have to change the human dignity is definitely the pinnacle of what the human rights should be enforced in that region phyllis bennis

director of the new international project at the institute for policy studies thanks so much for coming on thank you it's been a pleasure. look guys what's happening in palestine is an institutionalized policy of displacement worst of all for this placement of palestinian human dignity it's up to us to stand up for the human rights of the palestinians because if we don't who will. build. its technology innovation all these developments around russia we've got the future. download the official. language stream quality and enjoy favorite. t.v. required to watch on t.v.

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